1 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:02,899 what's up UFO garage we're here with les 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:05,450 fellas and he's part of the Opus 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:08,400 organization les how you been today man 4 00:00:13,310 --> 00:00:10,650 oh great this is a head of a conference 5 00:00:15,740 --> 00:00:13,320 here today it's been very interesting 6 00:00:18,740 --> 00:00:15,750 for sure absolutely there's been a lot 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:18,750 of great speakers man you know Eric 8 00:00:22,279 --> 00:00:21,210 Mitchell was awesome oh he had a great 9 00:00:24,470 --> 00:00:22,289 presentation 10 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:24,480 you know Melinda you just said Paul 11 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:26,430 Hynek you know he's always he's always 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:29,580 good but yeah it's it's been pretty 13 00:00:34,819 --> 00:00:32,730 awesome man so you're here with the Opus 14 00:00:36,470 --> 00:00:34,829 right right going ahead you tell the 15 00:00:37,430 --> 00:00:36,480 people a little bit about your 16 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:37,440 organization 17 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:43,140 absolutely back in 1994 a doctor friend 18 00:00:50,330 --> 00:00:47,910 of mine Eugene ellipse and we founded 19 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:50,340 this organization called Opus the 20 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:52,020 organization or paranormal understanding 21 00:00:58,490 --> 00:00:54,960 and support and the mission of our 22 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,500 organization is to help people that are 23 00:01:02,180 --> 00:01:00,719 having paranormal experiences and give 24 00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:02,190 them the kind of support they're looking 25 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:05,820 for and to back up a little bit and how 26 00:01:13,219 --> 00:01:09,510 this all came to be I was initially a 27 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:13,229 field investigator for MUFON and all the 28 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:14,670 cases that I got involved with 29 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:16,710 eventually turned out to be abduction 30 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:20,479 type cases and the people you know 31 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:23,340 wanted to know if there was other people 32 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:26,400 that they could talk to about their 33 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:29,369 experiences and I said well actually I 34 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:31,470 dunno and next thing I know I'm 35 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:33,270 facilitating a support group in San Jose 36 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:40,500 and so from that I got a I got a I was 37 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:42,360 written up in the Monterey Coast weekly 38 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:46,640 paper and about what I was doing 39 00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:49,500 investigating UFOs matter of fact my 40 00:01:54,350 --> 00:01:51,060 pictures on the front cover of this 41 00:01:56,749 --> 00:01:54,360 Weekly magazine so so anyway this woman 42 00:01:58,940 --> 00:01:56,759 from Carmel calls me says I'm I'm in 43 00:02:01,100 --> 00:01:58,950 touch with these off earthly entities 44 00:02:04,429 --> 00:02:01,110 and I want to know what's going on with 45 00:02:06,649 --> 00:02:04,439 my brain waves so I called the doctor 46 00:02:09,169 --> 00:02:06,659 friend of mine and she was working with 47 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:09,179 a emergency room doctor Donna Carmen 48 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:12,239 and so I said this is a great 49 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:14,370 opportunity because Eugene was looking 50 00:02:21,860 --> 00:02:16,579 for other doctors that he could you know 51 00:02:25,099 --> 00:02:21,870 communicate winner interface with so we 52 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:25,109 went down there and she started to tell 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:27,180 us stuff about ourselves that there was 54 00:02:30,619 --> 00:02:29,010 no possible way she would know and we 55 00:02:31,610 --> 00:02:30,629 found out that she had a near-death 56 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:31,620 experience 57 00:02:39,470 --> 00:02:36,560 it became very psychic afterwards and so 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:39,480 we came away from this meeting and 59 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:41,370 saying how can we possibly help people 60 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:45,650 like this and so Opus was hatched and 61 00:02:50,899 --> 00:02:48,750 you know we've we have a network of 62 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:50,909 medical people mental health 63 00:02:55,220 --> 00:02:53,310 practitioners hypnotherapist and various 64 00:02:58,030 --> 00:02:55,230 other types of consultants you know like 65 00:02:59,839 --> 00:02:58,040 spiritual awakening type Kundalini 66 00:03:02,809 --> 00:02:59,849 experiences and things of that nature 67 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:02,819 poltergeist activity Loyd Auerbach 68 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:06,120 matter-of-fact in San Francisco is part 69 00:03:10,069 --> 00:03:08,400 of our network as well when it we ever 70 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:10,079 get involved with the poltergeist 71 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:15,720 activity so anyway one of the things 72 00:03:21,559 --> 00:03:18,810 that we've done more recently is to set 73 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:21,569 up a online support group which is 74 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:23,609 totally confidential if you go to our 75 00:03:30,770 --> 00:03:27,930 website which is Opus network.org you 76 00:03:32,780 --> 00:03:30,780 can go into a section and tell us what 77 00:03:34,789 --> 00:03:32,790 your you know your story and when what 78 00:03:40,339 --> 00:03:34,799 you're looking for as far as assistance 79 00:03:42,619 --> 00:03:40,349 and it's incredible how useful this has 80 00:03:46,249 --> 00:03:42,629 been because all these experiences we've 81 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:46,259 got over 200 now that are active wow the 82 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:48,239 support group and they're from around 83 00:03:52,129 --> 00:03:49,590 the world we got people from Australia 84 00:03:55,399 --> 00:03:52,139 from the UK from South America and 85 00:03:57,890 --> 00:03:55,409 they're talking 24/7 and telling their 86 00:04:00,439 --> 00:03:57,900 stories and asking questions I must have 87 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:00,449 like thirty five thousand emails you 88 00:04:04,939 --> 00:04:03,720 know built up over time which people 89 00:04:07,339 --> 00:04:04,949 keep telling me I should write a book 90 00:04:08,599 --> 00:04:07,349 but it's like god I got to go through 91 00:04:13,999 --> 00:04:08,609 all those emails 92 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:14,009 I'd be crazy but anyway it's really 93 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:17,430 worked out and one of the things that we 94 00:04:23,409 --> 00:04:19,190 were 95 00:04:27,939 --> 00:04:23,419 really happy to have happen was 96 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:27,949 initially mufon I had convinced the past 97 00:04:35,869 --> 00:04:33,110 international chairman to work with us 98 00:04:37,129 --> 00:04:35,879 because they didn't have a set up there 99 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:37,139 were more nuts and bolts type 100 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:39,680 organizations right and didn't really 101 00:04:46,580 --> 00:04:42,990 you know we're not into this alien 102 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:46,590 abduction stuff so I said well I'm here 103 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:48,650 I'm doing this and so if you get calls 104 00:04:56,450 --> 00:04:53,490 send them to me so I have recordings of 105 00:04:58,850 --> 00:04:56,460 these people calling in to MUFON and 106 00:05:02,149 --> 00:04:58,860 telling their stories and I have a 107 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:02,159 presentation that I do and I put these 108 00:05:06,589 --> 00:05:04,440 on there and I blur out the the the 109 00:05:12,140 --> 00:05:06,599 names and phone numbers and things like 110 00:05:15,439 --> 00:05:12,150 that and it's just dramatic you know you 111 00:05:16,879 --> 00:05:15,449 can hear how upset these people are you 112 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:16,889 know telling their stories and what 113 00:05:23,719 --> 00:05:18,270 happened to them and they're looking for 114 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:23,729 help so based on that I was the person 115 00:05:29,209 --> 00:05:26,430 that started the initial group within 116 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:29,219 MUFON called the AER see the abduction 117 00:05:34,820 --> 00:05:32,370 experience or Research Committee and I 118 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:34,830 had you guys are familiar with DMT you 119 00:05:46,749 --> 00:05:40,830 know I've heard well-well strassman was 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:46,759 on our committee okay working working to 121 00:05:54,110 --> 00:05:51,810 basically develop a report and it's 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:54,120 called the Omega 3 report and if you go 123 00:05:58,399 --> 00:05:55,650 on our website under the clinical 124 00:06:03,769 --> 00:05:58,409 section you'll see this report and we 125 00:06:07,670 --> 00:06:03,779 took 72 abductees and 52 people that 126 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:07,680 were a control group and you know we had 127 00:06:13,519 --> 00:06:10,080 eight vehicles that they had to go 128 00:06:15,370 --> 00:06:13,529 through okay and basically in a nutshell 129 00:06:17,899 --> 00:06:15,380 these people did not have a 130 00:06:20,749 --> 00:06:17,909 psychopathology but they weren't crazy 131 00:06:22,519 --> 00:06:20,759 right they weren't fantasy prone which 132 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:22,529 you know a lot of these people talk 133 00:06:27,709 --> 00:06:25,919 about they had an interesting thing 134 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:27,719 going on with their brain though in the 135 00:06:31,550 --> 00:06:28,770 temporal lobe 136 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:31,560 area limbic system-- and I talked to 137 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:33,690 Eric Mitchell who you mentioned earlier 138 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:38,310 about that and he he was you know a 139 00:06:43,550 --> 00:06:40,170 minute I said that he looked at me he 140 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:43,560 says yeah yeah we're understand that 141 00:06:50,210 --> 00:06:48,000 that's happening and and so we want to 142 00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:50,220 do another study and of course we're 143 00:06:54,590 --> 00:06:52,500 always looking for people so if there's 144 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:54,600 any psychologists out there that would 145 00:07:05,360 --> 00:06:57,690 like to participate in the future study 146 00:07:05,870 --> 00:07:05,370 let me know you know begging to know the 147 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:05,880 answer 148 00:07:11,270 --> 00:07:08,130 yeah you know it's it's interesting I 149 00:07:13,010 --> 00:07:11,280 don't know a whole ton about MUFON but 150 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:13,020 it was the first thing that I looked up 151 00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:14,460 when I really started getting serious 152 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:16,830 about researching UFOs or movement gel 153 00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:18,480 you you really hey we should become 154 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:20,310 MUFON members and like starting to check 155 00:07:23,870 --> 00:07:22,050 it out I didn't really realize that 156 00:07:26,300 --> 00:07:23,880 there was a difference between like hey 157 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:26,310 I want to report a sighting or hey 158 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:28,650 there's I didn't know that something did 159 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:31,110 not exist yet you know that to the 160 00:07:35,630 --> 00:07:33,960 support side of it right and it's really 161 00:07:37,630 --> 00:07:35,640 cool that that's happening and you guys 162 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:37,640 are learning yeah you know 163 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:41,490 MUFON now has has a group okay they 164 00:07:47,050 --> 00:07:43,410 change the name now it's the ERT which 165 00:07:50,210 --> 00:07:47,060 is the experience or research team and 166 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:50,220 Kathleen Martin who is the head of it 167 00:07:54,530 --> 00:07:52,740 along with the George minish who I don't 168 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:54,540 know if you guys probably too young to 169 00:08:01,310 --> 00:07:56,940 remember George Bennett's is a pitcher 170 00:08:05,060 --> 00:08:01,320 for the Pittsburgh Pirates okay so he's 171 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:05,070 really a neat guy anyway so they develop 172 00:08:10,910 --> 00:08:08,250 this group and we get on zoom' about 173 00:08:13,070 --> 00:08:10,920 once a month and chat about cases and 174 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:13,080 things like that so now MUFON has a 175 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:15,450 vehicle where if their investigators 176 00:08:21,770 --> 00:08:18,690 come in contact with somebody they can 177 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:21,780 then turn it over to the ERT group okay 178 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:25,740 and I'm a research consultant for the 179 00:08:29,809 --> 00:08:26,520 group 180 00:08:33,219 --> 00:08:29,819 and so you know we can then decide what 181 00:08:36,199 --> 00:08:33,229 to do with it and we have resources and 182 00:08:38,329 --> 00:08:36,209 opus is one of the resources for the for 183 00:08:40,250 --> 00:08:38,339 the for the team great which I'm really 184 00:08:45,860 --> 00:08:40,260 happy about you know they haven't forgot 185 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:45,870 about it so yeah and it's incredible the 186 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:47,850 stories you know that that come our way 187 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:49,890 and you know the things that have 188 00:08:54,889 --> 00:08:53,279 happened during one of the support group 189 00:08:59,389 --> 00:08:54,899 meetings when I was still here in San 190 00:09:01,550 --> 00:08:59,399 Jose a person looked at me said wow you 191 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:01,560 look familiar you know I've seen you 192 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:03,600 before and I said oh really where a 193 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:08,910 grocery store says no I saw him board 194 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:11,610 the ship and I said what support the 195 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:14,010 ship okay so I kind of blew it off I you 196 00:09:18,889 --> 00:09:17,040 know because I have no conscious 197 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:18,899 recollection of any of that happening 198 00:09:22,730 --> 00:09:20,820 right because people have asked me why 199 00:09:24,019 --> 00:09:22,740 are you so involved in all this and I 200 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:24,029 said I don't have a clue 201 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:26,760 well that was gonna be my next question 202 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:29,610 yes was there a personal thing that 203 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:32,820 happen to you that kind of pushed you in 204 00:09:37,790 --> 00:09:35,550 this direction or well kind of like us 205 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:37,800 is you know we've seen lights in the sky 206 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:40,490 right but we also don't know you know 207 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:42,810 anything about an abduction not that we 208 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:45,360 know of but you know there's a strange 209 00:09:51,079 --> 00:09:48,720 push in this direction of interest yeah 210 00:09:55,790 --> 00:09:51,089 well it all started when I lived in 211 00:09:58,340 --> 00:09:55,800 Connecticut and it was 1958 and it was a 212 00:10:01,040 --> 00:09:58,350 late October evening and I was coming 213 00:10:04,190 --> 00:10:01,050 back in the house after feeding my dog 214 00:10:07,130 --> 00:10:04,200 and I saw this white oval object 215 00:10:11,230 --> 00:10:07,140 silently hovering over a tree line and 216 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:11,240 it scared the crap out of me and so I 217 00:10:15,170 --> 00:10:13,560 ran in a house and tried to get my 218 00:10:18,199 --> 00:10:15,180 father to come out and by the time I got 219 00:10:20,569 --> 00:10:18,209 convinced him to come out it was gone I 220 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:20,579 mean the the object was gone yes Oh 221 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:25,740 so but the next day I I had this desire 222 00:10:32,030 --> 00:10:29,040 to follow up and and and do some reading 223 00:10:33,650 --> 00:10:32,040 so I went to the library all right 224 00:10:37,579 --> 00:10:33,660 father took me down and went to the 225 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:37,589 library and whose book did I pick up 226 00:10:44,210 --> 00:10:41,310 George Adamski alright George Adamski 227 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:44,220 book you know about the Venetians and 228 00:10:50,180 --> 00:10:46,610 the ships and I mean it was blew me away 229 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:50,190 anyway long story short like you know 230 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:54,240 grew up went to college got married have 231 00:11:00,590 --> 00:10:56,370 kids and then I moved from Connecticut 232 00:11:01,699 --> 00:11:00,600 to California in 1985 and I picked up 233 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:01,709 the San Jose Mercury News 234 00:11:07,389 --> 00:11:03,930 and Stanton Freeman was going to talk 235 00:11:12,259 --> 00:11:07,399 about UFOs and a government cover-up so 236 00:11:14,059 --> 00:11:12,269 you know I went there to the session and 237 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:14,069 expecting to see a handful of people 238 00:11:21,019 --> 00:11:19,290 auditorium was full 300 people and MUFON 239 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:21,029 had a table in the foyer 240 00:11:25,759 --> 00:11:23,130 where they were talking about you know 241 00:11:27,439 --> 00:11:25,769 their monthly journal that they produce 242 00:11:30,230 --> 00:11:27,449 so I decided okay I'm gonna I'm gonna 243 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:30,240 get this journal and I started you know 244 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:33,569 really getting into it and then it was 245 00:11:37,759 --> 00:11:35,970 it wasn't enough it just wasn't enough I 246 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:37,769 I said I got to do more so I became a 247 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:39,810 field investigator and that's how that 248 00:11:44,059 --> 00:11:42,420 whole thing started yeah investigating 249 00:11:48,829 --> 00:11:44,069 these cases and turning out to be 250 00:11:51,290 --> 00:11:48,839 abduction type cases and that's how now 251 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:51,300 I've had regressions multiple 252 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:53,490 regressions trying to understand because 253 00:11:58,879 --> 00:11:56,910 I and another subsequent support group 254 00:12:01,100 --> 00:11:58,889 meeting like almost two years later 255 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:01,110 another person a different person said 256 00:12:05,449 --> 00:12:02,850 hey I've seen you before I said oh where 257 00:12:06,680 --> 00:12:05,459 the grocery store gas station no I saw 258 00:12:08,210 --> 00:12:06,690 him board the craft and you were 259 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:08,220 freaking out and they told me to go over 260 00:12:12,390 --> 00:12:10,600 and calm you down oh my 261 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:12,400 so what did you what did you say back to 262 00:12:16,650 --> 00:12:14,320 that person do you say well at that 263 00:12:19,350 --> 00:12:16,660 point I was dumbfounded I didn't know 264 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:19,360 what to say and and so that's when I 265 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:21,430 started to go and have regressions 266 00:12:27,570 --> 00:12:23,830 because I wanted to find out and you 267 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:27,580 know I've had multiple multiple you know 268 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:31,710 past lives you know I was I was a 269 00:12:37,170 --> 00:12:34,210 Spaniard at one time was a Greek another 270 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:37,180 time I was a Japanese samurai at one 271 00:12:49,050 --> 00:12:46,450 point that would be something I'd be 272 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:49,060 interested in finding about like finding 273 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:51,810 out about past lives I thought were you 274 00:12:56,850 --> 00:12:54,910 here in the in the other little room 275 00:13:00,090 --> 00:12:56,860 over here with all the books and you 276 00:13:01,530 --> 00:13:00,100 know selling stuff exactly we had what 277 00:13:04,110 --> 00:13:01,540 was her name did she give you a card on 278 00:13:07,830 --> 00:13:04,120 stone muse yeah the stone muses yeah 279 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:07,840 magic magic box walked out she was 280 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:09,430 talking to baby told me her name but I 281 00:13:15,270 --> 00:13:13,390 and she was like oh so I can tell like 282 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:15,280 you know you have you have like a mantis 283 00:13:19,470 --> 00:13:17,650 guide you know with you it like you know 284 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:19,480 you have like this lineage of like 285 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:22,420 Viking in you and stuff like that yeah a 286 00:13:26,670 --> 00:13:24,730 mind-blowing then and then I walk up but 287 00:13:33,870 --> 00:13:26,680 she's like oh you're a lion your friend 288 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:33,880 illyrian to find out like just if I was 289 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:36,130 like a farmer or like you know maybe a 290 00:13:40,410 --> 00:13:38,470 train conductor back in the day maybe I 291 00:13:42,090 --> 00:13:40,420 could have been a samurai - yeah I think 292 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:42,100 that would be super interesting to see 293 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:43,690 you know because right now all I know is 294 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:45,280 that I'm from a different star system 295 00:13:48,270 --> 00:13:46,900 yeah I would like to kind of know maybe 296 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:48,280 was I something here on earth 297 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:51,370 Yeah right really oh yeah it is and in 298 00:13:57,090 --> 00:13:55,210 most of those past lives were military 299 00:13:59,700 --> 00:13:57,100 involvement I was you know some kind of 300 00:14:01,920 --> 00:13:59,710 a soldier or something and matter of 301 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:01,930 fact in this lifetime mm-hmm I was in 302 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:04,090 the artillery I was you know a 303 00:14:09,450 --> 00:14:06,450 lieutenant and they field artillery and 304 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:09,460 so I don't know that's that's a real 305 00:14:16,770 --> 00:14:13,210 strong thing going on in my existence 306 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:16,780 right it's like some sort of like the 307 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:20,320 need to be a leader or to help yeah yeah 308 00:14:28,890 --> 00:14:23,050 yeah that's very interesting it's very 309 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:28,900 very interesting man yeah so so I was 310 00:14:35,310 --> 00:14:33,370 curious like is there do you guys have 311 00:14:37,170 --> 00:14:35,320 I guess meetings on a regular basis and 312 00:14:39,210 --> 00:14:37,180 like kind of come together and say like 313 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:39,220 oh there's a lot of stuff happening in 314 00:14:44,460 --> 00:14:42,640 this part of the world or is there some 315 00:14:45,870 --> 00:14:44,470 kind of common I'm just curious like is 316 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:45,880 there some kind of commonality at 317 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:47,680 certain times of years or anything like 318 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:49,030 that I've always been curious about well 319 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:51,580 there there there does seem to be what 320 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:54,970 happens with us like after something 321 00:15:00,060 --> 00:14:58,000 like this where people all of a sudden 322 00:15:03,060 --> 00:15:00,070 something comes to mind triggered by 323 00:15:04,890 --> 00:15:03,070 somebody talking about a certain subject 324 00:15:08,670 --> 00:15:04,900 and then all of a sudden we'll get an 325 00:15:11,250 --> 00:15:08,680 inflect influx of of people contacting 326 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:11,260 our site and saying you know what I had 327 00:15:15,870 --> 00:15:13,930 this memory and I'd like to look at it 328 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:15,880 further so you know we'll we'll try to 329 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:17,950 give them a hypnotherapist in their area 330 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:21,880 that is familiar with the topic so that 331 00:15:28,110 --> 00:15:25,510 that does occur yeah based around a lot 332 00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:28,120 of these UFO conventions and things of 333 00:15:31,500 --> 00:15:29,280 that nature 334 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:31,510 there's certainly hot spots around the 335 00:15:38,910 --> 00:15:35,190 world where sightings are happening 336 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:38,920 certain times of the day you know are 337 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:41,050 more popular than others yeah 3:00 a.m. 338 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:44,470 maybe is a common one very high 339 00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:49,570 strangeness people going outside to have 340 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:52,420 a cigarette I swear a lot of the cases 341 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:54,010 that I got involved with the person said 342 00:16:06,140 --> 00:15:56,050 well I was out on my balcony and I was 343 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:06,150 smoking a cigarette way like one 344 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:08,680 organization or they're like multiple 345 00:16:12,750 --> 00:16:11,320 around the United States yeah it's just 346 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:12,760 something that you can collect 347 00:16:18,890 --> 00:16:16,770 yeah what it is is that we're one we're 348 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:18,900 officially a nonprofit organization 349 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:22,990 recognized by the IRS of 500 501 3 C and 350 00:16:29,610 --> 00:16:25,600 our official headquarters is in 351 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:29,620 Sacramento okay I'm in Texas I'm you 352 00:16:36,059 --> 00:16:32,529 know the co-founder and chairman now 353 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:36,069 the organization and so we're basically 354 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:39,849 we have a board of directors and I don't 355 00:16:45,209 --> 00:16:41,289 know if you've interviewed Terry 356 00:16:47,159 --> 00:16:45,219 Lovelace yet he's gonna okay good man 357 00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:47,169 matter of fact he's one of our advisory 358 00:16:51,359 --> 00:16:48,669 board members oh wow 359 00:16:54,119 --> 00:16:51,369 Linda Moulton Howe is our one of our but 360 00:16:57,119 --> 00:16:54,129 advisory board members and Yvonne Smith 361 00:17:00,269 --> 00:16:57,129 is another advisory board man you got a 362 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:00,279 18 with you oh great people great people 363 00:17:06,149 --> 00:17:02,799 and you know we work with Barbara lamb 364 00:17:10,169 --> 00:17:06,159 as well and in our early days but 365 00:17:14,509 --> 00:17:10,179 Hopkins was one of our advisors and you 366 00:17:19,470 --> 00:17:14,519 guys remember the name Phil class yeah 367 00:17:22,289 --> 00:17:19,480 my first my first MUFON symposium in 368 00:17:26,129 --> 00:17:22,299 Albuquerque New Mexico he was there and 369 00:17:30,269 --> 00:17:26,139 I'm sitting at the bar and he sits down 370 00:17:33,090 --> 00:17:30,279 next to me and you know I was drinking a 371 00:17:37,799 --> 00:17:33,100 scotch and he ordered a scotch and we 372 00:17:38,970 --> 00:17:37,809 started chatting and so I asked him you 373 00:17:41,700 --> 00:17:38,980 know I can knew who he was 374 00:17:43,409 --> 00:17:41,710 you know I recognized him and I said and 375 00:17:44,700 --> 00:17:43,419 he said so you know what do you do 376 00:17:46,970 --> 00:17:44,710 what's your interest here and all that 377 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:46,980 kind of a nice start tell him about Opus 378 00:17:52,619 --> 00:17:50,950 and he was very complimentary and you 379 00:17:54,509 --> 00:17:52,629 know gave me advice he says now be 380 00:17:58,109 --> 00:17:54,519 careful he says because there's a lot of 381 00:18:00,810 --> 00:17:58,119 crazy people out there you know they 382 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:00,820 they you know so just be careful and so 383 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:03,970 it was a very pleasant conversation with 384 00:18:10,529 --> 00:18:07,929 Phil class of people it's kind of a 385 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:10,539 different take on pillow class you know 386 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:14,110 very much so yeah he just yeah he just 387 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:15,850 came and tried to you know talk as much 388 00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:18,850 as possible debunking constantly so 389 00:18:23,879 --> 00:18:21,100 that's that's a nice little spin on on 390 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:23,889 that name for sure so throughout the 391 00:18:27,659 --> 00:18:25,990 years of you do in this have you you 392 00:18:30,300 --> 00:18:27,669 know because it is dealing with like you 393 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:30,310 know whether it be like ghost activity 394 00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:33,160 you know UFOs are just some strange 395 00:18:39,930 --> 00:18:36,400 happenings have you guys maybe found 396 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:39,940 like a correlation between all the 397 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:42,970 incidents is there there's I think 398 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:45,700 they're they're all related it's part of 399 00:18:48,810 --> 00:18:46,960 the puzzle you know you get the the 400 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:48,820 poltergeist over here and you got the 401 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:50,710 UFO here and then you got the orbs down 402 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:52,210 here and then you got the 403 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:53,770 interdimensional beings and the time 404 00:18:58,140 --> 00:18:56,110 travelers you know all of the 1980 405 00:18:59,670 --> 00:18:58,150 Rendlesham forest thing right where they 406 00:19:01,380 --> 00:18:59,680 said these guys were coming back from 407 00:19:03,750 --> 00:19:01,390 forty thousand years in the future you 408 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:03,760 know to harvest stuff and yeah you know 409 00:19:08,820 --> 00:19:06,610 it's whatever you can think of literally 410 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:08,830 whatever you can possibly think of is it 411 00:19:14,550 --> 00:19:11,320 it seems like the phenomenon like kind 412 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:14,560 of interacts with with the imagination 413 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:17,470 of the human you know the last thing 414 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:21,310 that hynek's said jaehong Hynek said you 415 00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:24,330 know was consciousness right whatever 416 00:19:32,850 --> 00:19:29,380 consciousness is is is manifest in a way 417 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:32,860 that you know is an orb or it's a flying 418 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:37,870 saucer or it's a poltergeist or and in 419 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:40,360 that consciousness that energy never 420 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:43,150 dissipates right now when you die that 421 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:46,210 energy just goes somewhere yeah you know 422 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:50,950 and there's a doctor that had an 423 00:19:57,390 --> 00:19:54,390 experience a near-death experience and 424 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:57,400 she was kayaking down in South America 425 00:20:02,520 --> 00:19:59,290 somewhere and went over a waterfall and 426 00:20:05,820 --> 00:20:02,530 was trapped for half an hour under the 427 00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:05,830 water and during that time she saw these 428 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:09,940 what she called these angelic entities 429 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:14,260 and she felt so good that she didn't 430 00:20:20,430 --> 00:20:16,690 want to go back you know didn't want to 431 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:20,440 go back and they told her you have to go 432 00:20:25,650 --> 00:20:22,210 back there's things that you need to do 433 00:20:30,570 --> 00:20:25,660 but then they also told her which was 434 00:20:33,660 --> 00:20:30,580 blew my mind that her son who was little 435 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:33,670 at the time was going to die when he was 436 00:20:38,100 --> 00:20:37,450 18 years old so she never told her son 437 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:38,110 that 438 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:43,600 okay obviously and son-of-a-gun went 439 00:20:55,919 --> 00:20:46,690 when when the he turned 18 he had a car 440 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:55,929 accident and died oh yeah so so time you 441 00:21:00,029 --> 00:20:58,330 can you can just go in anywhere and say 442 00:21:01,649 --> 00:21:00,039 okay here's the past here's the here's 443 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:01,659 the president and here's the future but 444 00:21:08,029 --> 00:21:03,730 it doesn't matter where you are you can 445 00:21:10,740 --> 00:21:08,039 access it you can access it anywhere 446 00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:10,750 it's that I mean that's still to this 447 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:12,460 day when I heard that story it just 448 00:21:17,279 --> 00:21:16,570 absolutely blew me away that's powerful 449 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:17,289 stuff 450 00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,850 I keep thinking about this like I think 451 00:21:25,019 --> 00:21:23,200 there's like a theme here with like 452 00:21:27,629 --> 00:21:25,029 consciousness and time and I feel like 453 00:21:30,659 --> 00:21:27,639 it's really time as a linear time is 454 00:21:32,399 --> 00:21:30,669 only specific to humans and this mm-hmm 455 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:32,409 this reality right now and once you get 456 00:21:36,419 --> 00:21:35,110 past them the physical body it's like 457 00:21:38,759 --> 00:21:36,429 more and more stories that I hear like 458 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:38,769 that that is once you're not a human in 459 00:21:42,659 --> 00:21:40,330 you're just like a consciousness that 460 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:42,669 that's manifested in another 461 00:21:46,769 --> 00:21:44,740 intelligence like time really doesn't 462 00:21:50,149 --> 00:21:46,779 matter anymore like it's true that's 463 00:21:53,180 --> 00:21:50,159 true and then you think about you know 464 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:53,190 if in fact we are dealing with 465 00:21:59,310 --> 00:21:56,110 extraterrestrials how can they come 466 00:22:01,080 --> 00:21:59,320 these distances you know with our you 467 00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:01,090 know physics that doesn't allow that 468 00:22:05,899 --> 00:22:03,039 because you can't go faster than the 469 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:05,909 speed of light which now I think is 470 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:10,690 passe it's not happening yeah they 471 00:22:18,539 --> 00:22:16,510 figured it out I think it's just that 472 00:22:21,149 --> 00:22:18,549 was just another mental block or hurdle 473 00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:21,159 on to the next step you know yeah not 474 00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:23,080 being able to go faster than light was 475 00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:26,769 just where we as far as we could take it 476 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:29,440 at the time yeah now times have changed 477 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:32,529 and I don't believe that anymore no I 478 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:34,510 think there's a lot more to it like you 479 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:37,330 said I completely agree completely agree 480 00:22:40,649 --> 00:22:39,220 and you know that we I think we're 481 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:40,659 starting to figure out bits and pieces 482 00:22:46,049 --> 00:22:43,690 of the of the EU UFO situation in the 483 00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:46,059 sense that if you're nuts and bolts kind 484 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:46,420 of 485 00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:49,030 which I started out being very much a 486 00:22:55,740 --> 00:22:51,880 nuts-and-bolts kind of guy in 487 00:22:57,570 --> 00:22:55,750 conversations that I've had with Lou 488 00:23:00,900 --> 00:22:57,580 Elizondo as a matter of fact I had lunch 489 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:00,910 with him three or four months ago he had 490 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:03,250 come to actually interview 491 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:06,340 Terry Lovelace I think he's going to 492 00:23:13,970 --> 00:23:09,250 appear on the next season of the 493 00:23:19,820 --> 00:23:13,980 unidentified right and they figure that 494 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:19,830 the skin of the craft is integral in 495 00:23:24,690 --> 00:23:23,830 making being the ship's being able to do 496 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:24,700 what they do 497 00:23:29,940 --> 00:23:27,610 along with not a huge power source 498 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:29,950 evidently it's it's very very small 499 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:32,740 amount of power is required to drive 500 00:23:39,150 --> 00:23:35,860 this thing and so when you see that 501 00:23:41,730 --> 00:23:39,160 going on it's like or hear that it's 502 00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:41,740 like whoa we are getting closer if they 503 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:44,320 if they think that and these meta metals 504 00:23:48,860 --> 00:23:45,910 that they keep talking about it right 505 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:48,870 yeah that that's the thing that's that's 506 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:52,570 that's key to it absolutely key to it 507 00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:54,430 yeah I mean there's there's been people 508 00:24:00,720 --> 00:23:56,560 who have spoke at this conference that 509 00:24:02,010 --> 00:24:00,730 have said things that if any of that is 510 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:02,020 absolutely true 511 00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:05,020 mm-hmm then that already is proof that 512 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:08,080 we're way beyond you know what we 513 00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:10,690 currently think we understand of like 514 00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,460 mainstream physics or science or 515 00:24:16,590 --> 00:24:14,080 anything like that I mean there's 516 00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:16,600 there's a lot to it you know Matthew 517 00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:18,670 being one of them yeah he had some crazy 518 00:24:23,340 --> 00:24:21,430 like some some really awesome like ideas 519 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:23,350 just like up to say you know what he was 520 00:24:27,450 --> 00:24:25,150 talking about with the orbs and like 521 00:24:28,890 --> 00:24:27,460 energy and like going faster than light 522 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:28,900 and how we've already figured all this 523 00:24:35,310 --> 00:24:32,170 stuff out and it was just very confident 524 00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:35,320 about it and you know like I said some 525 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:36,520 of the stuff that people have said here 526 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:39,220 is it kind of makes you like okay yeah 527 00:24:43,730 --> 00:24:41,770 we're definitely on that next level yeah 528 00:24:46,350 --> 00:24:43,740 you know I think I think we're lucky 529 00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:46,360 especially you guys who are a lot 530 00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:48,540 younger than me 531 00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:51,750 you may you really might see a full 532 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:54,390 disclosure happening where they just 533 00:25:02,950 --> 00:24:56,970 come out and say yeah screw it this is 534 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:02,960 it boys you kind of feel it a little bit 535 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:05,970 kind of in the air I think right now 536 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,250 everybody's still kind of on edge it's 537 00:25:13,940 --> 00:25:10,320 like okay are you just trying to 538 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:13,950 distract us again or is there something 539 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:16,590 like genuine yeah disclosure why is 540 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:19,320 going on and I think that's a safe 541 00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:21,210 position to have right now 542 00:25:26,990 --> 00:25:24,990 you know like are you tricking us real 543 00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,000 thing because you don't exactly have the 544 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:29,520 best history but at the same time like 545 00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:31,890 if you think about it you can understand 546 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:35,640 the reasoning behind some of the the you 547 00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:38,250 know the secrecy the trickery the you 548 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:40,260 know some of the stuff is unexcusable 549 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:43,050 obviously but you know it's just trying 550 00:25:45,620 --> 00:25:44,520 to play devil's advocate you know like 551 00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:45,630 you're trying to be balanced on both 552 00:25:49,670 --> 00:25:47,460 ends like see it from their point of 553 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:49,680 view but then also see it from like just 554 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:51,930 a regular human like there's if there is 555 00:25:56,150 --> 00:25:54,330 this technology or this this something 556 00:25:57,980 --> 00:25:56,160 that can help the earth and there's just 557 00:26:00,140 --> 00:25:57,990 millions of people suffering you know 558 00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,150 like yeah it's it's it's it's a very 559 00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:02,820 double-edged sword like I understand the 560 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:04,800 secrecy but at the same time like can we 561 00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:07,170 help people with this I'm glad you 562 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,430 brought that up because one of the 563 00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:10,320 things that you know I've always said it 564 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:11,760 from a nuts-and-bolts type of a 565 00:26:16,430 --> 00:26:13,530 standpoint if we can figure out how 566 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:16,440 these things operate can you imagine and 567 00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:19,050 and and and the power sources that 568 00:26:25,370 --> 00:26:22,680 they're utilizing and it's not causing 569 00:26:27,470 --> 00:26:25,380 you can't see any pollution coming out 570 00:26:30,110 --> 00:26:27,480 of these things you know it's right you 571 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:30,120 know and so if we understand that you 572 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:33,970 know get rid of the fossil fuel industry 573 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:36,130 you know therefore we'll have cleaner 574 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:38,650 water or a cleaner air you know that all 575 00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:40,570 these vehicles that are pumping out all 576 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:44,590 kinds of toxic stuff you know that going 577 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:48,130 electric and you know it's just yeah a 578 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,650 lot of lot of things that would be super 579 00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:53,440 positive I think yeah I think it's 580 00:26:59,160 --> 00:26:57,280 interesting that you uh you described 581 00:27:01,170 --> 00:26:59,170 yourself you used to be a nuts and bolts 582 00:27:05,370 --> 00:27:01,180 kind of a guy and when you're in this 583 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:05,380 this realm of topic you see that a lot a 584 00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:07,570 lot of people come in and that's in 585 00:27:13,350 --> 00:27:09,550 bolts and then kind of by the end of it 586 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:13,360 they're like my nuts and bolts right you 587 00:27:18,150 --> 00:27:15,220 should at the same time it's like dude 588 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:18,160 some stuff we just can't explain well 589 00:27:24,330 --> 00:27:21,390 you know in dealing with the abductees 590 00:27:28,170 --> 00:27:24,340 you know the initial phase there's like 591 00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:28,180 three phases to that process and the 592 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:30,280 initial phase is traumatic very 593 00:27:36,570 --> 00:27:33,100 traumatic and then the second phase is 594 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:36,580 that they come to accept it okay and not 595 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,890 be as traumatized and then the third 596 00:27:43,230 --> 00:27:41,440 stage is when it stops it's kind of like 597 00:27:44,790 --> 00:27:43,240 the Stockholm Syndrome they say what 598 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:44,800 happened how come they're not you know 599 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:47,650 doing anything with me anymore but that 600 00:27:53,220 --> 00:27:49,870 whole process becomes a spiritual 601 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:53,230 journey it's very spiritual it's totally 602 00:27:59,900 --> 00:27:57,250 spiritual and then that gets back to the 603 00:28:04,260 --> 00:27:59,910 consciousness and all of that because 604 00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:04,270 every almost without exception and in 605 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:07,990 this Omega 3 study that we did people 606 00:28:13,950 --> 00:28:11,290 you know unanimously say you know we 607 00:28:16,650 --> 00:28:13,960 have to be better to one another we have 608 00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:16,660 to be better to the planet you know we 609 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,110 have to not pollute you know take care 610 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:22,480 of the the creatures of the planet I 611 00:28:26,670 --> 00:28:24,310 mean I mean it's all positive real 612 00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:26,680 positive stuff which is super spiritual 613 00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:29,950 super spiritual it's so strange like 614 00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:33,040 when you think about it that we as 615 00:28:37,350 --> 00:28:35,380 humans have to have something tell us 616 00:28:39,810 --> 00:28:37,360 that like doesn't that all just sound 617 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:39,820 like a good idea to be doing in the 618 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:41,230 first place you know we're such a 619 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:43,390 strange creature yeah what sounds it's 620 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:45,790 it's ever more like evident that 621 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:48,370 our consciousness as humans right now 622 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:50,230 we're very much in our teenage years 623 00:28:54,510 --> 00:28:52,210 where we're like I'm gonna like do this 624 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:54,520 until I get away with it and unless 625 00:29:00,390 --> 00:28:56,890 somebody tells me like hey like - y'all 626 00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:00,400 should like not make a mess destructible 627 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:02,830 you know I think that's kind of our 628 00:29:06,390 --> 00:29:04,330 consciousness right now that's kind of 629 00:29:15,030 --> 00:29:06,400 I'm I feel like we're kind of in our 630 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:15,040 teenage years a lot more people who are 631 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:17,740 becoming more more self-aware and like 632 00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:21,730 oh we are doing like maybe we should pay 633 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:23,620 more attention to this kind of stuff you 634 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:26,380 know and you see that which is really 635 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:28,090 really cool so maybe we're past that 636 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:44,270 [Laughter] 637 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:48,880 yeah I agree man I agree man I think I 638 00:29:52,830 --> 00:29:50,290 think what you guys are doing is 639 00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:52,840 extremely important yeah I think that's 640 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:55,510 a really awesome thing and you know with 641 00:30:01,080 --> 00:29:58,290 us doing this show you know occasionally 642 00:30:03,630 --> 00:30:01,090 people will ask us you know for advice 643 00:30:07,650 --> 00:30:03,640 you know but we're not professionals you 644 00:30:10,650 --> 00:30:07,660 know we you know we can maybe direct you 645 00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:10,660 and do it a you know a certain area of 646 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:12,820 somebody who can help you and this is 647 00:30:17,340 --> 00:30:14,650 awesome because this opens up a whole 648 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:17,350 new lane for us to be able to yeah 649 00:30:21,870 --> 00:30:19,570 people get the help that they need I 650 00:30:23,370 --> 00:30:21,880 tell you what it'd be fantastic if you 651 00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:23,380 know utilize this as a resource 652 00:30:27,930 --> 00:30:24,460 absolutely 653 00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:27,940 you know because most of the time they 654 00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:29,350 don't know where to turn right you know 655 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:32,140 they've gone on you know Google things 656 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:34,870 and then they may contact a certain site 657 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:37,050 and then they don't get feedback or they 658 00:30:43,050 --> 00:30:41,170 contact but you know our our efforts if 659 00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:43,060 it's somebody contacts us we want to be 660 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:48,820 back to them within 24 hours max and we 661 00:30:54,980 --> 00:30:52,210 get you know two to three maybe even 662 00:30:59,539 --> 00:30:54,990 four people a week that God 663 00:31:04,370 --> 00:30:59,549 and so since 94 that's a lot of people 664 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:04,380 yeah yeah I feel like I mean just you 665 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:06,120 guys seem like great guys and just it 666 00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:07,919 seems like a very comfortable thing it's 667 00:31:11,330 --> 00:31:09,929 not like an intimidation kind of thing 668 00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:11,340 like oh we're just we're just in it to 669 00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:12,809 get more information you guys are really 670 00:31:16,370 --> 00:31:15,000 like wanting to help well thank you 671 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:16,380 thank you very much 672 00:31:24,430 --> 00:31:18,419 you know we have good people on our 673 00:31:26,899 --> 00:31:24,440 regular board Garrett who's in in the 674 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:26,909 vendor room with all his artwork he's a 675 00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:29,370 fantastic artist oh the sculptor of the 676 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,640 guy that has that sculptor no sculptures 677 00:31:36,830 --> 00:31:34,320 he's all in the far corner and I'm left 678 00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:36,840 left hands okay cool yeah yeah yeah 679 00:31:44,029 --> 00:31:40,169 Garrett Moore and and then we got Ruben 680 00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:44,039 Ori out there who is the state director 681 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:46,980 for Northern California for MUFON so he 682 00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,450 was here briefly today oh yeah he was a 683 00:31:58,539 --> 00:31:53,840 little under the weather so he left but 684 00:32:02,240 --> 00:31:58,549 and we have Mike Buckley who is a 685 00:32:03,860 --> 00:32:02,250 medical doctor who's in this area so we 686 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:03,870 have people like that that are really 687 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:06,690 concerned you know have the have the 688 00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:09,210 backgrounds that are you know Garrett is 689 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:12,230 actually an experienced or himself and 690 00:32:17,539 --> 00:32:15,600 so it helps when you have people that 691 00:32:24,190 --> 00:32:17,549 are familiar with it you know they're 692 00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:26,480 well that's good man 693 00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:28,860 well let's tell everybody where they can 694 00:32:33,230 --> 00:32:30,270 get a hold of you guys all right 695 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:33,240 websites and all that stuff great yeah 696 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:35,690 if you go to our website which is Opus 697 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:39,210 network.org all right you'll get a full 698 00:32:43,370 --> 00:32:41,730 picture of what we do and you'll be able 699 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:43,380 to contact this through there 700 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:46,620 and we love to hear from you if you've 701 00:32:49,220 --> 00:32:48,809 got concerns or you need some kind of 702 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:49,230 help 703 00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:53,370 we're here for that and we also have a 704 00:33:01,149 --> 00:32:57,539 facebook presence opus and if you just 705 00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:01,159 put in opus Opie us you need to put in 706 00:33:05,629 --> 00:33:03,929 unfortunately Organization for 707 00:33:07,650 --> 00:33:05,639 paranormal understanding and support so 708 00:33:09,450 --> 00:33:07,660 this is long 709 00:33:11,010 --> 00:33:09,460 but we're there because Google might 710 00:33:13,470 --> 00:33:11,020 might think that you meant to spell 711 00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:13,480 hippopotamus right something something 712 00:33:19,950 --> 00:33:18,160 where our opus died well less thank you 713 00:33:22,050 --> 00:33:19,960 so much for stopping by today man that's 714 00:33:24,180 --> 00:33:22,060 great thank you guys I really appreciate 715 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:24,190 it all right it's fantastic you guys 716 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:26,170 don't forget to go and check out opus if 717 00:33:29,610 --> 00:33:27,850 you need any help these guys are here to 718 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:29,620 help you with anything that you have 719 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:31,720 going on whether it be aliens ghosts 720 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:34,600 maybe Bigfoot right whatever right you 721 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:36,490 haven't done Bigfoot yet stomping all 722 00:33:39,390 --> 00:33:38,050 over your garden you need some help I'm 723 00:33:42,990 --> 00:33:39,400 sure these guys can figure something